Dec 22, 2025
In today’s episode, Heather welcomes authors, leadership consultants, and husband and wife team Dr. Linda Schubring and Brian Schubring to explore the deeper meaning of identity, transformation, and trusting your inner map. Together, they discuss their bestselling book Unfolded: Lessons in Transformation from an Origami Crane, a powerful allegory that invites readers to rediscover their inner wisdom and reshape how they show up in the world.
Through stories of leadership coaching, personal reflection, and creative collaboration, Heather, Linda, and Brian unpack how uncertainty, change, and self doubt can become catalysts for growth. This conversation is a reminder that your experiences have already shaped the map you need, and that unfolding your potential is both an internal journey and a shared one.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
Why the Map Is Already Inside
You
How your past experiences hold the answers for where you are meant
to go next.
Transformation Is a Choice
Why the shape you are in today does not have to be the shape you
stay in.
The Power of Community in
Growth
How different voices, including critical ones, help shape who we
become.
Reflection and Action Must
Coexist
Why introspection without action leads to paralysis and action
without reflection leads to burnout.
Creating a Practice That Is Truly
Yours
How journaling, meditation, and reflection work best when tailored
to your own needs.
Navigating Noise and
Distraction
Why stepping away from constant external input helps you reconnect
with your inner voice.
Wisdom Across Generations
How mentors, inner dialogue, and lived experience guide
transformation at every stage of life.
In this episode:
[00:00] Introducing Dr. Linda and Brian Schubring and their book
Unfolded
[02:00] The origin story behind the origami crane allegory
[04:18] Anchoring certainty within during times of uncertainty
[06:37] Agency, reshaping identity, and choosing how you show
up
[08:57] The role of community, inner voices, and leadership
teams
[11:19] Reflection versus action and why both matter
[13:40] Meditation, journaling, and intentional pauses
[18:14] Listening to your inner voice amid constant noise
[22:55] Wisdom, mentors, and being the owl for others
[27:36] Writing together, creative process, and collaboration
[33:31] A closing meditation on trust, courage, and taking
flight
Resources and Links:
📘 Book:
Unfolded: Lessons in Transformation from an Origami
Crane
Discover a powerful allegory about identity, growth,
and transformation.
🌐 Website: Leadership Vision
Consulting
Learn more about Dr. Linda Schubring and Brian
Schubring’s leadership and organizational work.
Connect with Heather:
Heather’s TikTok
heather@elegantwarrior.com
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